Alcuni mesi fà scrissi un post su alcune delle ditte PSEUDOprivate che girano attorno a Siena (Comune, banca...è uguale).
Ricordiamo i Nomi: Agenda21, Terrecablate, Qualivita.
Adesso faccio un gioco, ne tolgo una (Agenda21) e ne inserisco 2:
ETRURIA TELEMATICA (se sempre esiste) e BASSNET
Guardate i nomi di chi siede su POLTRONE IMPORTANTI, da 100 e passa mila euro annui...dico 100 e passa mila euro annui.
Politici o figli di IMPORTANTI personalità....
Si,dai......commentate DICENDOMI i nomi (che guarda caso...acluni sono ugualiuguali....che combinazione!!!) di chi siede ai piani alti di queste aziende che, SE LEGGETE ATTENTAMENTE, fanno MOLTI progetti comuni insieme.
Una mano lava l'altra e tutte e due PRENDONO I SOLDI.
Poi un bravo giornalista, che di questo non scrive nulla, mi saprebbe dire veramente A COSA SERVONO queste aziende, se non ai partiti (TUTTI..dico TUTTI) per fare FAVORITISMI?
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Io sono venuta a conoscenza di un personaggio che, lasciata etelnet (era misteriosamente direttore tecnico) adesso è in una importante poltrona di Terre Cablate.
Basta, denunciamo queste cose.
Srano che alcuni nomi e (soprattutto) cognomi non sono presenti nei siti web di diverse aziende sopra elencate.
Eppure questi Cognomi hanno poltrone importanti....in diverse aziende.
non c'è molto da commentare. La situazione in cui versa Siena dal punto di vista clientelare e nepotistico è al pari di Catanzaro e Reggio Calabria. Almeno fosse un clientelismo meritocratico... Il problema è che malgrado contratti milionari, le aziende private (che NOI paghiamo con le nostre tasse) hanno dei bilanci da rabbrividire con benefici per la città pari a zero.
E poi dicono dei TERRONi e della MAFIA.
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infatti... quelli lasciali a casa sua. Qui si parla di SIENA e basta.
"E poi dicono dei TERRONi e della MAFIA."
Questo era un commento ironico, della serie...davvero si pensa che siamo meglio?
Che la "mafia" a Siena non esista?
Davvero?
Allora.....SVEGLIA ragazzi, dovete ancora imparare a vedere VERAMENTE come è la vita.
Oppure siete di quelli che vi basta una co'a'ola seduti al manganelli o al Bavaria(WOOOOOW che VITA!) per farvi sentire soddisfatti della città?!
Cominciamo a fare nomi aziende per esempio le municipalizzate, aiutatemi io ne conosco solo alcune in provincia: collepromozione ;azienda speciale multiservizi; Società Cristallo di Colle (che fanno?)
Qualcuno vuole mica dire qualcosa dei posteggi a pagamento?
Ho visto uno stand di terre cablate alla festa dell'unità a Poggibonsi....... vuoto, dentro e intorno.
Ma tanto al "parco buoi" ogni tanto rifilano un concertino della Pausini o un Benigni a gratis e tutti contenti.....
Ma lo sapete quanta roba si potrebbe fare coi soldi che prendono (hanno preso) questa gente? Asili, pensionari, assistenza agli anziani e ai meno abbienti..... ma per questo ci pensa il comune no????
Salve partiamo da una delle domande:
"mi saprebbe dire veramente A COSA SERVONO queste aziende?"
Terrecablate è una società di telecomunicazioni, quindi eroga servizi di fonia ed internet, perchè è utile? per aumentare la concorrenza e ridurre i costi, per portare servizio dove l'operatore dominante non porta nulla, per permettere al cliente di scegliere ciò che è meglio per lui e non essere costretto a prendere l'unica cosa disponibile. Immagino che chi scrive abbia tutti i servizi erogabili a portata di mano, immagino che magari abiti nel centro di Siena dove esiste ADSL (20 e 2 Mega), Video on demand, linee ISDN o analogiche, ma nel resto della provincia? cosa esiste? ve lo dico io, esistono zone dove azienda anche importanti per l'economia del territorio non riescono ad avere neppure una linea ISDN, l'ADSL è un miraggio.. e così via. Ecco quindi a cosa serve una delle società sopra citate.
Passiamo ad un altra: Etruria telematica. Costei dal 1998 è stata chiamata a produrre banche dati geografiche su piattaforme GIS per tutti gli enti del territorio, cartografie topografiche, software per erogare servizi pubblici di cui anche colui che scrive avrà usufruito sensa porsi la domanda di chi li abbia realizzati. Il tutto ai migliori prezzi possibili sul mercato con risparmio per le amministrazioni che sono così riuscite a ridurre i costi. Quindi prima di fare la solita demagogia sarebbe opportuno informarsi bene di ciò che fanno certe aziende e soprattutto per chi lo fanno, perchè è bene ricordare che tutti i cittadini sono uguali per cui i servizi dovrebbero essere altrettanto uguali per tutti. Adesso, soprattutto in ambito digitale, esistono ancora cittadini di serie A e cittadini di serie B, le due aziende sopra citate stanno cercando di colmare tale gap. Concludo con alcune domande, ma chi scrive dove prende le informazioni?, dove lavora?, il collegamento internet per portare avanti il blog lo paga lui o usa quello aziendale? Non vi fate fregare dalle facili considerazioni, per mantenere un posto di lavoro devi sempre faticare molto e le persone che conosco lavorare per le aziende sopra citate, fanno molti sacrifici come tutti gli altri impiegati e operai della provincia e, aggiungo, con stipendi che calcano il contratto collettivo nazionale, e non alle cifre fantasmagoriche sparate nel blog.
...a me risulta che uno dei responsabili di etruria telematica, oltre ad avere un cognome noto, sia però anche un professore universitario alla facoltà di ingegneria. Quindi proprio scarso scarso non dovrebbe essere
Si, infatti tutti questi consorzi funzionano benino.....
A Monteriggioni (RIPETO MONTERIGGIONI) non a Trequanda, manca l'adsl in alcuni punti, nel comune di Colle (esclusa colle centro) manca l'adsl. Ora mi chiedo, a cosa serve terrecablate se ancora non ha fatto NULLA neppure per zone facili da servire come quelle sopraddette? Troppo facile portarci l'adsl fra 5 o 6 anni anche dove ho detto io, l'efficienza si misura anche da qui.....
come mai in certi comuni delle provincia si impedisce l'utilizzo del WI FI, nemo costoso, più efficente, più futuribile dell'ADSL?
per non togliere lavoro a terre cablate
Bel discorso....davvero bello.
ma nella pratica....
Davvero terrecablate serve al cittadino per il "gap" tecnologico'
NO
WiFi, altro che ADSL....che NEMMENO Terrecablate porterà mai al cittadino
Queste ditte fanno lavori per le sorelle ditte pubbliche.
I nom al comando sono tutti noti.
E' un rigiro di persone, incarichi e RUBERIE.
E come dice Toto'
"...MA MI FACCIA IL PIACERE!!"
Anonimo dice "e le persone che conosco lavorare per le aziende sopra citate, fanno molti sacrifici come tutti gli altri impiegati e operai della provincia e, aggiungo, con stipendi che calcano il contratto collettivo nazionale"
MA CHE CI PRENDI PER IL CU...LO?
Lo potrai fare con gli scemi del paese...ma i FATTI sono BEN Evidenti
I fatti...non le parole
Io credo, penso, affermo che uno al posto di comando di queste ditte ci ARRIVA soloo perchè è FIGLIO DI oppure ha la giusta TESSERA DI PARTITO
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...ci ARRIVA soloo perchè è FIGLIO DI.......
ma non diciamo s*t*r*o*n*z*a*t*e...
io ho lavorato in una delle aziende di cui si parla e non sono entrato con nessuna spinta, ne io, ne i miei ex colleghi.
Poi sempre pagati al minimo sindacale (e possibilmente senza contratto a partita iva o cococo), straordinari sistematici senza mai vedere una lira, nessuna carriera o riconoscimento... informatevi invece di sparare a caso...
Molte di queste aziende nascono per togliere le castagne dal fuoco agli enti pubblici che fanno svolgere a 1 dipendente di una ditta privata, il lavoro che internamente ne richiederebbe 10... con buona pace del dipendente pubblico...
Mi stupisco per le banalità e falsità pubblicate in questo blog
però una cosa diciamola... qualcosa di poco chiaro e trasparente in queste aziende c'è...bilanci compresi.. e proprio perchè "levano la castagne dal fuoco all'ente pubblico" mi aspetterei la massima resa... ma è sotto gli occhi di tutti che così non è... poi chi è direttamente interessato è chiaro che il suo orticello lo difende. Malgrado questo sarebbe curioso sapere: 1)che fine ha fatto etruria 2) come sono state riciclate le poltrone 3) qual'è la paga minima sindacale dei dirigenti queste aziende. Grazie e basta col clientelismo. Chi sa fare, faccia, chi non sa fare, A CASA.
leggo:
"Si, infatti tutti questi consorzi funzionano benino.....
A Monteriggioni (RIPETO MONTERIGGIONI) non a Trequanda, manca l'adsl in alcuni punti, nel comune di Colle (esclusa colle centro) manca l'adsl. Ora mi chiedo, a cosa serve terrecablate se ancora non ha fatto NULLA neppure per zone facili da servire come quelle sopraddette? Troppo facile portarci l'adsl fra 5 o 6 anni anche dove ho detto io, l'efficienza si misura anche da qui....."
rispondo: SAI COME SI PUò TECNICAMENTE PORTARE L'ADSL? CREDO DI NO ALTRIMENTI SAPRESTI CHE è QUASI UGUALE FARLO A TREQUANDA CHE A MONTERIGGIONI.. E POI RITIENI GLI ABITANTI DI TREQUANDA DA MENO DI QUELLI DI MONTERIGGIONI?, IO RITENGO ABBIANO LO STESSO DIRITTO ANZI FORSE IN BUSTA PAGA HANNO PIù TRATTENUTE COME TASSA COMUNALE DI QUELLA DEGLI ABITANTI DI MONTERIGGIONI.
leggo:
"come mai in certi comuni delle provincia si impedisce l'utilizzo del WI FI, nemo costoso, più efficente, più futuribile dell'ADSL?
per non togliere lavoro a terre cablate"
rispondo: CHI IMPEDISCE COSA? NEL COMUNE DI MONTERONI IL SERVIZIO WI-FI VIENE EROGATO DA UN OPERATORE CHE NON è TERRECABLATE, NESSUNO NE HA FATTO OSTACOLO, MA RICORDA CHE GLI OPERATORI VANNO SOLO DOVE Cè RITORNO ECONOMICO ABBONDANTE DELL'INVESTIMENTO,MENTRE TERRECABLATE VA ANCHE DOVE NON è PROPRIO COSì, SAI QUANTO COSTA UNA RETE WI-FI E SOPRATTUTTO PER RISPONDERE ANCHE A CHI POSTA SUBITO DOPO DI TE SAI COME FUNZIONANO I SISTEMI WI-FI? SAI COSA SERVE PER COPRIRE UN'AREA CON UN CERTO NUMERO DI ABITAMNTI, SDICIAMO UN PAESE COME SOVICILLE, PER NON DIRE MONTERIGGIONI APPUNTO O TREQUANDA? RITIENI DAVVERO CHE I SISTEMI WI-FI SIANO MEGLIO DELLA ADSL? SECONDO ME COME I SISTEMI VEICOLATI SU FILO NON Cè NIENTE. MAGARI SONO UTILI PER COPRIRE RAPIDAMENTE MOLTE ZONE, PER SOPPERIRE DOVE IL SERVIZIO ADSL NON Cè, QUEDSTO TE LO CONCEDO MA CHE SIANO MEGLIO PROPRIO NO.
RILEGGO:
però una cosa diciamola... qualcosa di poco chiaro e trasparente in queste aziende c'è...bilanci compresi.. e proprio perchè "levano la castagne dal fuoco all'ente pubblico" mi aspetterei la massima resa... ma è sotto gli occhi di tutti che così non è... poi chi è direttamente interessato è chiaro che il suo orticello lo difende. Malgrado questo sarebbe curioso sapere: 1)che fine ha fatto etruria 2) come sono state riciclate le poltrone 3) qual'è la paga minima sindacale dei dirigenti queste aziende. Grazie e basta col clientelismo. Chi sa fare, faccia, chi non sa fare, A CASA.
.."sotto agli occhi di tutti che non rendono (lavorativamente parlando) ma sei sicuro di sapere cosa facesse per esempio Etruria? sai quali sono i lavori fatti negli ultimi 6,7 anni? credo di no, forse non sai che se abiti in provincia di siena molte delle cose che hai sotto mano o sott'occhio (dipende cosa fai nella vita) le ha prodotte etruria o se mai non sei tra coloro che toccano o vedono direttamente quanto prodotto ne usufruisci indirettamente.
bilanci poco chiari? mi sa che qui ti sbagli di grosso, alle aziende di proprietà o partecipate dal enti pubblici potrai a torto o ragione addossargli di tutto ma non certo pensare che i bilanci non siano reali.
la cosa poi clamorosa è che, non so per quale motivo e non mi interessa dici "che fine a fatto etruria?, come sono state reciclate le poltrone?" ma non ti chiedi che fine hanno fatto i dipendenti, coloro che prendono uno stipendio base come da contratto collettivo, o perchè non ti domandi che fine hanno fatto i collaboratori a progetto? di dirigenti in un azienda cè uno, ma di dipendenti tanti, e a te sta più a cuore la bramosia di sapere cosa fa adesso uno rispetto a tanti? sei forse una ragazza in cerca di un buon partito da accalappiare? nell'eventualità fosse così datti da fare!!!
A proposito delle castagne dal fuoco: ma io quando vado a votare per rinnovare provincia e comune, me lo scrivono da quale azienda si faranno togliere le castagne dal fuoco... per favore, forse si trova posto accanto al nome del candidato. In basso e corsivo gradirei anche i nomi di quelli che poi saranno gli amministratori delle CASTAGNE. GRAZIE
Non fossilizziamoci su una o due di queste ditte.
Abbiamo anche BASSNET, QUALIVITA (mi viene da ridere) e moooolte altre.
In queste due ai posti alti vedo solo personaggi che hanno fatto CARRIERA POLITICA (di quelli che conosco)
Non sono manager....solo politici.
Intanto la Bassilichi ha, con MPS, acquisito mooolti lavori (chissà perchè).
Queste ditte di lavoro ne producono (non si può dire di no, anche io conosco posti nei queli il collegamento ad internet avviene solo grazie ad esse)
Ma nemmeno si pu`dire di no al fatto che in alcune (molte) poltrone ci sono filgi di, politici, ecc...cioè RACCOMANDATI.
Ragazzi...SIAMO IN ITALIA, non dimentichiamolo
Paese della NONMeritrocrazia.
Sono ditte all'italiana, PASTASCIUTTAStyle..io do una mano a te, te dai una mano a me.
E anche questo è fouri da ogni dubbio.
Oppure qualcuno mi viene a dire che non è così!
Approposito....letto il giornale di oggi che FINALMENTE commenta il processo ad un dirigente MPS?
Vi aspetto in un prossimo articolo...ma vi porgo una domanda: questo dirigente (sembra condannato per falso) verrà "punito" (con sonori sculaccioni) oppure verrà messo in pensione con tanto di Liquidazione AUMENTATA per quello che ben ha fatto?
IO DICO LA 2
leggo:
SAI COME SI PUò TECNICAMENTE PORTARE L'ADSL? CREDO DI NO ALTRIMENTI SAPRESTI CHE è QUASI UGUALE FARLO A TREQUANDA CHE A MONTERIGGIONI.. E POI RITIENI GLI ABITANTI DI TREQUANDA DA MENO DI QUELLI DI MONTERIGGIONI?, IO RITENGO ABBIANO LO STESSO DIRITTO ANZI FORSE IN BUSTA PAGA HANNO PIù TRATTENUTE COME TASSA COMUNALE DI QUELLA DEGLI ABITANTI DI MONTERIGGIONI.
Sfortunatamente per te lo so e so anche che non è poi così difficile portarcelo (ho fatto l'esempio di trequanda per comodità sulle distanze per predisporre le centrali periferiche, che vi farebbe risparmiare anche la benzina per andarci) basta volerlo, ma sembra che per adesso anche nei comuni più limitrofi a Siena (sempre per comodità eh, s'intende...) non si muova foglia. Allora COSA E DOVE FA QUALCOSA TERRECABLATE???
...a proposito degli ex dipendenti di etruria, ma quale bramosia di sapere!il problema é che la poltrona da direttorone per chi esce dalla finestra e rientra dalla porta c'è sempre... mentre per quelli da stipendio da contratto collettivo si vedrà (se la tessera è giusta chiaramente)... e buona poltrona a tutti...
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